I met Matt while working in the Bookstacks Department during college. Over the past two years, I have invited him to my parties where I personally served him drinks in the (the) Schlitz goblet, mooched his Parliament Lights at the Cove in my pre-lung-collapse days, and listened to his stories about growing up in southern Indiana. I, along with my colleague Sam, have decided that with a man like Matt Hacker in it, the world is a lucky place.
Sam (SM) and I (KH) took some time out on a pleasant Friday afternoon to interview Matt, so that the world may know more about him.
KH: Okay, Matt. What do you do that is related to the ASR [Automated Storage and Retrieval] project?
MH: [Laughs]…I make sure that the books that are going into storage have records, so that the ASR is not a black hole.
KH: A black hole. Mmhmm. What would you say is your favorite part of your job?
MH: I like that I've been permitted to use my own discretion in organizing the project I was hired to complete. I invite the challenge to establish a method for this work which will ensure efficiency and accuracy as we come ever closer to housing titles in an automated storage system.
KH: So your official ASR nickname is the “Whiz Kid.” We’ve all noticed that Excel is your niche, with your hidden columns, fourteen colored associated tabs and whatnot [see right; click for larger image]. What is your history with Microsoft Excel?
MH: I used Excel for high school physics lab reports.
SM: I did that, too.
KH: I never took physics. [For some reason, everyone laughs.] [Mumbles] I did take astrophysics, and used Excel for that.
MH: We are gelling as a team as we discover our past.
KH: Indeed. So how did you get to using Excel more recently?
MH: I inherited an Excel workbook from my supervisor of data accumulated over the past year. I was told to fill in the blanks, but the only information in there were titles and online backfile sources.
SM: Skeleton workbooks.
KH: Mmm.
MH: Mmm. [Pauses] I started looking for information to fill in, and when I couldn’t find it, I made it up.
SM: [Laughing] So Elsevier doesn’t exist!
MH: That’s right; [grinning] Elsevier is a character from a fantasy novel!
SM: What do you think about learning organizations? We posted on Chris’ blog about them, for a class he took. What are your thoughts on the matter?
MH: What’s a learning organization?
SM: Who knows.
MH: I like to learn about organizations, and I like to organize my learning. So I’ve always loved learning organizations.
KH: That's a good response. I agree with you. Now let’s get back to your recent, increased activity with Microsoft. How did you get involved with Access?
MH: I was convinced that the ASR project could only be carried out in its most efficient and accurate form by Access, by creating a database—shoutouts to George Rumsey. When I conferred with supervisors and trainers, they agreed. Access and I also dated for a while during high school.
KH: What went wrong?
MH: We were moving in different directions. She said I was moving too fast. I disagree.
KH: I’m sorry to hear that.SM: So is it lonely working at Crerar? Do you feel out of the loop or anything?
MH: I’m a desperado. Crerar is my kind of environment.
KH: That's a timeless quote. Who is that man who works in the same room as you?
MH: Andras. A-N-D-R-A-S. Same root as “Andrea” or “Andrew”—etymologically, it means “man” in Greek.
KH: Oh, like “anthropology”?
MH: Right. [Writes it out in Greek for KH.]
KH: So, can you explain “ontological dependence” in layman terminology?
MH: The thing which is ontologically dependent on the other doesn’t exist if the other thing doesn’t exist.
KH: So does that just mean that two things are dependent on each other?
MH: Yes.
SM: So that’s important to his Excel sheets because the things in the workbooks are often ontologically dependent on each other.
[Not-present ER says in KH’s imagination: "Well, isn’t it nice to always know everything, Quiet Storm."]
SM: So we have to end this interview with something like, ‘Currently reading…’ What are you currently reading?
MH: Moby Dick.
KH: Are you serious? I tried to read that twice and didn’t get into it, although I’d like to.
MH: I’m 300 pages in.
SM: Make sure to put that in there so everyone knows he’s really reading it.
KH: [Writes it down; thinks back to the few pages of Moby Dick she read.] So what do you think of the relationship between Queequog and Ishmael?
MH: I like it when my foreign friend smokes in bed with me also, so I understand.
MH: I want my colleagues, friends, and fans to know only this: Rinse, and repeat. Always. Each and every one is already cooler than a polar bear's toenails. I think this message will accomplish more. [Originally, his message was “Stay cooler than a polar bear’s toenails.”]
SM: We need to know your inspirations.
MH: Bob Dylan…Kaiser Wilhelm II…and Wayne Gretsky.
SM: Not Ted Koppel?
MH: No Ted Koppel.
KH: [Scribbles "Ted Koppel" and then strikes it with an X.] Thank you for your time, Matt.
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And that was our interview with Matt. Stay tuned for more exciting interviews with members of the ASR Crew and related staff!








